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		<title>By: Scribe Called Steff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scribe Called Steff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scots-- Yeah, I love beautiful cinematography... I have to, I have photojournalism under my belt, and yeah, it&#039;s beautiful in this film...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I think not everyone does know all the history re Genghis Khan. I certainly don&#039;t. Why was it a battle to unite Mongolia? How did the battle come to happen? How did Genghis amass the men -- and not just &quot;slaughter for me and I&#039;ll only keep 10% of the take&quot; but just the actual amassing of these guys, you know?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It wasn&#039;t complete, there was no transition, there was too little linear thought for a movie that&#039;s clearly intending on moving in a linear fashion.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I liked it, but I&#039;m more disappointed than I am satisfied, and I dislike feeling that way. So... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, there wasn&#039;t enough about him as a leader on an interpersonal level. No one gets to such a position without being able to rally people and motivate them, and nothing was shown as to why or how people would feel inspired by Temudjin. It was really frustrating.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The obvious parallel is Braveheart. There, you knew why men were willing to die for him, but you don&#039;t get that sense with Mongol. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scots&#8211; Yeah, I love beautiful cinematography&#8230; I have to, I have photojournalism under my belt, and yeah, it&#8217;s beautiful in this film&#8230;</p>
<p>But I think not everyone does know all the history re Genghis Khan. I certainly don&#8217;t. Why was it a battle to unite Mongolia? How did the battle come to happen? How did Genghis amass the men &#8212; and not just &#8220;slaughter for me and I&#8217;ll only keep 10% of the take&#8221; but just the actual amassing of these guys, you know?</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t complete, there was no transition, there was too little linear thought for a movie that&#8217;s clearly intending on moving in a linear fashion.</p>
<p>I liked it, but I&#8217;m more disappointed than I am satisfied, and I dislike feeling that way. So&#8230; </p>
<p>Yeah, there wasn&#8217;t enough about him as a leader on an interpersonal level. No one gets to such a position without being able to rally people and motivate them, and nothing was shown as to why or how people would feel inspired by Temudjin. It was really frustrating.</p>
<p>The obvious parallel is Braveheart. There, you knew why men were willing to die for him, but you don&#8217;t get that sense with Mongol. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: JanieBelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>JanieBelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the rundown.  Sorry it didn&#039;t do it for you in the theater, and I hope the DVD works better.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ll be keeping an eye out for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the rundown.  Sorry it didn&#8217;t do it for you in the theater, and I hope the DVD works better.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be keeping an eye out for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the film needed long battle scenes, after all we know what the outcome was but I do think some of the chopping and cutting was unnecessary. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s not the greatest film every made but photographically it is a beautiful piece of cinema. I do think that there has been an over abundance of films with long battle scenes over the past few years and it was nice that this film didn&#039;t put too much emphasis on the battles.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I do think the film could have made more emphasis on why after fighting against Temudjin men would join up with him. It was touched but only barely. This I feel was more important to his rise in power than how the early battles were won. I do think if there was a film made of his latter life the battles outwith Mongolia, ie in China and elsewhere, then the battle scenes would have been of more prominence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the film needed long battle scenes, after all we know what the outcome was but I do think some of the chopping and cutting was unnecessary. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the greatest film every made but photographically it is a beautiful piece of cinema. I do think that there has been an over abundance of films with long battle scenes over the past few years and it was nice that this film didn&#8217;t put too much emphasis on the battles.</p>
<p>I do think the film could have made more emphasis on why after fighting against Temudjin men would join up with him. It was touched but only barely. This I feel was more important to his rise in power than how the early battles were won. I do think if there was a film made of his latter life the battles outwith Mongolia, ie in China and elsewhere, then the battle scenes would have been of more prominence.</p>
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		<title>By: Scribe Called Steff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scribe Called Steff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and if you want to see it for the epic battle scenes...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wait for the DVD. It&#039;s the battle scenes they kept cutting away from inexplicably. Like, WHAT? It&#039;d be like Braveheart showing you half of every battle, then cutting completely away for no reason at all. Hello, pacing, anyone? Anyone? No? Resolution? No?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or maybe that&#039;s the Russian way. No resolution for you!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(Directed by a Russian, crewed by probably half Russkies too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and if you want to see it for the epic battle scenes&#8230;</p>
<p>Wait for the DVD. It&#8217;s the battle scenes they kept cutting away from inexplicably. Like, WHAT? It&#8217;d be like Braveheart showing you half of every battle, then cutting completely away for no reason at all. Hello, pacing, anyone? Anyone? No? Resolution? No?</p>
<p>Or maybe that&#8217;s the Russian way. No resolution for you!</p>
<p>(Directed by a Russian, crewed by probably half Russkies too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Scribe Called Steff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scribe Called Steff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOME SMALL ITTY-BITTY SPOILERS IF YOU&#039;RE A GOOF AND DON&#039;T KNOW THAT GENGHIS KHAN UNITED MONGOLIA... oops, well, there&#039;s your spoiler. Read on, then.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mongol: We came, we saw, we were glad it was free.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However... I really want to see it on DVD, because I bet the other hour of needed movie will be there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Every time things started to get going, it would suddenly cut away from the action to some slow, stilted scene, and it&#039;d voiceover/subtitle into a new era, and, finally, when this happened at the big battle scene, I just sputtered aloud in the theatre, &quot;What?&quot; and GB snickered.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But, seriously, the bones to this movie are fantastic, but it&#039;s like it&#039;s made as a 3-hour epic  for Asia but got gutted into a 2-hour movie for North America. There are some seriously big gaps. It doesn&#039;t work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s not like it&#039;s innovative editing and I&#039;m missing something in translation, no, they&#039;ve just completely removed, it seems, entire scenes of the movie. Like it goes from an exiled Temujin (Genghis&#039; real name, spelled about 12 ways, but all sounding like Temujin) praying to suddenly him being the leader of this massive army and it&#039;s about to fight to unify all of Mongolia and, you&#039;re like, &quot;But how the fuck did we get HERE? What about the 2 years of army-building before this?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Like I said to Gayboy, &quot;Well, I&#039;m glad I saw it, but I&#039;m thrilled I didn&#039;t pay&quot;--&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And that SUCKS because this is a Lord-of-the-Rings kinda thing where they apparently shot the trilogy over the course of a year, back to back. I want to love this movie, and if I ever see a director&#039;s cut that makes it all make sense, then I&#039;ll be thrilled.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I can&#039;t in good conscience recommend anyone see it, because they fucked the editing up far too much for it to make sense. Sigh. Bah! Stupid editors!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Less wolf, editor, more battle! Fuckin&#039; people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOME SMALL ITTY-BITTY SPOILERS IF YOU&#8217;RE A GOOF AND DON&#8217;T KNOW THAT GENGHIS KHAN UNITED MONGOLIA&#8230; oops, well, there&#8217;s your spoiler. Read on, then.</p>
<p>Mongol: We came, we saw, we were glad it was free.</p>
<p>However&#8230; I really want to see it on DVD, because I bet the other hour of needed movie will be there.</p>
<p>Every time things started to get going, it would suddenly cut away from the action to some slow, stilted scene, and it&#8217;d voiceover/subtitle into a new era, and, finally, when this happened at the big battle scene, I just sputtered aloud in the theatre, &#8220;What?&#8221; and GB snickered.</p>
<p>But, seriously, the bones to this movie are fantastic, but it&#8217;s like it&#8217;s made as a 3-hour epic  for Asia but got gutted into a 2-hour movie for North America. There are some seriously big gaps. It doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s innovative editing and I&#8217;m missing something in translation, no, they&#8217;ve just completely removed, it seems, entire scenes of the movie. Like it goes from an exiled Temujin (Genghis&#8217; real name, spelled about 12 ways, but all sounding like Temujin) praying to suddenly him being the leader of this massive army and it&#8217;s about to fight to unify all of Mongolia and, you&#8217;re like, &#8220;But how the fuck did we get HERE? What about the 2 years of army-building before this?&#8221;</p>
<p>Like I said to Gayboy, &#8220;Well, I&#8217;m glad I saw it, but I&#8217;m thrilled I didn&#8217;t pay&#8221;&#8211;</p>
<p>And that SUCKS because this is a Lord-of-the-Rings kinda thing where they apparently shot the trilogy over the course of a year, back to back. I want to love this movie, and if I ever see a director&#8217;s cut that makes it all make sense, then I&#8217;ll be thrilled.</p>
<p>But I can&#8217;t in good conscience recommend anyone see it, because they fucked the editing up far too much for it to make sense. Sigh. Bah! Stupid editors!</p>
<p>Less wolf, editor, more battle! Fuckin&#8217; people.</p>
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